Public Service Announcement: SSPX Priests and Laity NOT Declared Excommunicated

See Fr. Z talking about this, based on basic explanations by well respected canon lawyers, as reported by EWTN and Rorate Coeli. 

It has to be in the Decree itself which it isn’t. The Note and the 1996 document it sites have no canonical effect.

Only the bishops are officially, canonically considered to be excommunicated, NOT the priests, the laity, or the organization as a whole canonically declared in schism.

Anything otherwise coming from Tucho or the Vatican News is disinformation.  By now, as long as they refuse to correct their false announcements, including to all the bishops, they are gravely lying by omission, giving the new false view to everyone that the SSPX is now a formal schism outside of the Church.

This lie is the radiation fallout of the Nuke they dropped on the SSPX.  Subversion by means of one great lie .

In my humble opinion, no new talks with Rome until Kissy gets removed, as well as Traditionis Custodes, as well as this lie.  The Vatican  must own its canonical errors and calumny   Odds that happens under Leo nearly 0%.  It seems then best to only engage the conciliar structure on a strict case by case basis based on strict necessity, while remaining in principle always open to contact and sharing in prayer and liturgy  

Please inform your friends and family, and share this message across Catholic social media to help stop this big lie. 

 

Re. the SSPX. An Intervention By The Okie Traditionalist, Appealing To Tulsa Bishop David Konderla and the U.S. Papal Nuncio: A Proposed Doctrinal Agreement and Profession of Faith to Demonstrate “Full Communion” for He and His Wife, all SSPX Laity, the entire SSPX, and Others. For the Greater Glory of God and in Veneration of Our Lady, Queen of Heaven and Earth

Update: 7/8, 4:30.  Left yesterday a voice message with the chancery and one with with the papal nuncio, explained context, polite message.  No reply 24 hours later.  Called today the chancery, receptionist cut me off mid sentence transferring me to the bishop’s secretary who was overbearing, seemingly in response to my repeated attempts, would not tell me her last name, me consistently being polite but firm, when I said that was rude and and I’m in contact with the nuncio she immediately brought the call to an end, as in hung up on me, all documented.  Reported incident by voicemail to nuncio (the second message with them).  By now, after almost a week, someone would have responded to acknowledge receiving the messages.  Based on the bishop several times ignoring my consistently polite attempts to get his help (Re several past incidents with priests, etc., long story), this is why I’m pressing this. If I did it more slowly, past experience clearly indicates we’ll still get blown off.  We are treated like we are not Catholics or citizens.  Or human beings.  

My last email asked for a response by Friday.  

Update: 7/7, 4:30. It’s been 3 business days since my first email, 4 if you include last Friday, but that was July 4th weekend for most a 3 day weekend.  Still no reply from the bishop, chancellor, vicar general, any diocesan representative, or anyone from the US Nuncio office.  

Emailed all again asking please for at least a reply acknowledging receipt of our emails/requests.  Asked to reply by end of business day this Friday, or we will have to conclude they have chosen not to provide the pastoral care we request, even if hypothetically we were “excommunicated.” I also left a voicemail asking for a reply. 

“Excommunicated” from the Ape of the Church. Deo Gratias. Okie Trad Replies. And Writes His Tulsa Bishop

I thank God for being raised a practicing, orthodox Catholic, but as an adult to receive the “singular grace”to understand there is a Crisis in the Church, and how grave it is.  It was also a singular grace in my 20’s for God to lead me, by means of study, prayer, and an attraction to the beauty and goodness of our Catholic heritage, out of the Novus Ordo System of Conciliar Novelty onto the firm foundation of Catholic Tradition, by means of the FSSP, and years later more completely through the SSPX.

Taylor Marshall Is No Longer a Friend of the SSPX.

He’s come out against the consecrations as imprudent, disobedient, and now calls into question their Catholic identity.Yesterday he was pro-SSPX because it was good for business. 

(See Uodates Tonight) SSPX Episcopal Consecrations in Just 6 Hours! Tune Into YouTube. Pope Leo Finally Communicates to the SSPX?!?

Update: 2:03 am. YouTube announcer just said there’s no papal mandate.  So there you go. So be it.  God wants us to suffer for the sins the conciliar church and the modem world with the greatest persecution.

Only 3 Days to Go Until Operation Survival 2.0! Until “Final Liberation from the ‘Ape of the Church’ Day.” Aka “The Day Pope Leo and Cardinal Fernandez Drop a Nuclear Bomb on the Entire SSPX, and Indirectly Across the Wider Church.”

In just 3 days, God will bless us by His Providence with the privilege of white martyrdom, that is the SSPX, and by extension indirectly all traditional Catholics who support them and the work of Catholic Tradition who will also be affected. 

My Wife and I are Members of an SSPX Chapel. If We Too Get “Excommunicated” by Leo the Merciful, then So Be It. We Will Be Happy to Endure All The Practical Consequences, for God’s Glory, and To Be Officially Cut Off From the “Ape of the Church”

 My wife started attending the SSPX in 1999, me in 2007.  I attended the SSPX Chapel in Tulsa from 2007-2017, where we were married, until it had to be closed, and since then we attend the SSPX Chapel in Oklahoma City when we can. 

Leo Finally Speaks About the SSPX. The “Excommunications” Are Mainly About Vatican II Itself, Not Mainly About Not Having a Canonical Papal Mandate

 The Second Vatican Council’s lower level pastoral statements on religious liberty, ecumenism, and collegiality are supposed to be “essential elements” of the Church, as Leo recently said.  Yet, if they were “essential,” they would be dogmas, which must be believed to remain a member of the Church, and would have been taught before the Council.  And, you know,not condemned by the Church before Vatican II.  

The Law of Non-Contradiction and the Constant Teaching of the Catholic Church. Traditional Catholics Have No Other Choice Than to Reject the Conciliar Errors. Even If Falsely “Excommunicated”

The Catholic Church essentially teaches we must always morally follow the Law of Non-Contradictions, because we are taught we are always absolutely bound to adhere to objective Truth.  If the Church has always taught that 1 + 1 = 2, a Catholic can never believe 1 + 1 does not equal 2, or that say 1 + 1 = 3.   

The Okie Traditionalist Responds to Cardinal Muller’s Condemnatory, Alienating Interview About the SSPX, and the Upcoming July 1st Episcopal Consecrations. The Dye Has Been Cast. The “Ape of the Church” Wages War with the True Church. So Be It.

Muller shows his contempt for the work of Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society in his overtly hostile interview just recently released.  He commits hypocrisy by, on one hand, being a promoter of ecumenical unity, but on the other hand in this interview taking a non-pastoral, polarizing, arrogant, and condemning tone to hundreds of thousands of sincere Catholics, attached to a Congregation of about 1,500 formal members around the world, as priests, brothers, sisters, oblates, and seminarians. Who are, by the way, also sincere.  

Pope Leo: ALERT! Get This Message to Him!! Begging Him for Justice and Mercy Towards the SSPX!

2025 SSPX Jubilee Pilgrimage

To Rome.  8,000 Attendees. 680 Clergy and Religious

Gathered in St. Peter’s Basilica

Manifesting their Unity with the Successor to St. Peter 

Preparing for the July 1st SSPX Episcopal Consecrations. And the Aftermath. A Time of Joy and Thanksgiving. A Time to Celebrate. A Time of Witness. A Time to Prepare

The Final Showdown Before July 1st

Follow this development in the weeks ahead:   the SSPX Superior General  recently made a decisive Declaration of Faith TO THE POPE (LINK) in response to Tucho’s  final warning.  He is asking as a simple Catholic and human being that the pope and head of the doctrinal office confirm him, the entire SSPX, and the universal Church in the Faith, on specific central  dogmas, especially “Outside the Church there is no salvation” (EENS), by themselves affirming those dogmas.  

In Defense of the SSPX Episcopal Consecrations. A Common Sense Approach

 First, every Catholic has a right to bishops, priests, and liturgies that are clearly, unquestionably Catholic and reliable, not to mention of their own liturgical rite (LINK).  The Novus Odo is de facto a different rite than the ancient rite, therefore we have a right to the “Tridentine rite,” and “Tridentine” trained clergy.  That is both “Tridentine” priests, but also “Tridentine” bishops to examine their candidacy and then ordain them.  

How Fast Will it Take for Leo and Tucho to “Excommunicate” the SSPX? Okie Trad’s Prediction. Also, a Word to the Indult Trads and the Barnhardt-ites (see Footnote)

The Okie Traditionalist Responds to Okie Laramie Hirsch on the Upcoming SSPX Episcopal Consecrations on July 1st

See LH’s blog article HERE

Full Disclosure of Aliens Coming Soon?!?

High profile experts are telling us to get ready for “The Final Disclosure”that aliens exist, they are here, they have been here for a long time, there are several species of aliens on our planet, and some are benevolent while some are malevolent. 

A Call to Defend and JOIN WITH the SSPX in the Weeks Ahead. To Consolidate the True Church vs. the "Ape of the Church." Open Letter to Pope Leo, Cardinal Fernandez, Also My Bishop, Bishop Konderla of the Diocese of Tulsa

July 1st

Incoming SSPX Excommunication

BREAKING NEWS: Okie Trad Solves the Case! Contact the FBI! Gonna-Be-Impeached Trump Staged (Again) The Recent “Assassination Attempt” To Increase Approval Ratings, and to Build His Royal Ballroom

According to the preponderance of evidence, deductive reasoning, connecting the dots, and common sense, it’s a practical certainty.  You heard it here first, folks.  

ALERT! A Mega Nuke is Incoming, On July 2nd. The Ape of the Church is about to Nuke the Catholic Church. The Impending “Excommunication” of the Society of St. Pius X and Its Aftermath

Introduction

The Ape of the Church is represented today materially by Leo-Prevost-Who-Now-Clearly-Cares-Less-About-Us-Traditional-Catholics, Heal-Me-With-Your (Impure) Kisses Touch-o Fernandez, and the Cabal of Vatican Sodomites-Who-STILL-Are-Freely-Enjoying-Vatican-Homo-Orgies-and-Cocaine.  Leo is going to let Touch-o push the red button, in retaliation for us calling out all of his heretical teachings, effeminacy, signs of homosexuality,, especially his Child Porn book and mystical perversions.  

The Big Picture Revealed. We’ve Been Fooled

A preponderance of the evidence plus deductive reasoning results in the following conclusions:

1. Trump must have done some very dark, perverted stuff connected to Epstein, that if revealed would ruin Trump. 

2. It’s all in the Epstein files.