If/When the Traditional Latin Mass Ends at Holy Cross Parish in Wagoner, Oklahoma, Diocese of Tulsa

Preface:  by “Traditional Latin Mass” (TLM) in the title of this article  I am speaking only of the ancient and venerable Roman rite, as developed in Rome, the Apostolic See, from the time of St. Peter into its permanent, essential traditional form by the time of Pope St. Gregory the Great, as then ultimately codified by Pope St. Pius V as the perpetually official Roman rite. 

It was never considered merely a dated form of the Roman Mass relative to the Middle Ages, but rather as the final papal codification of what truly was/is the ancient and venerable Roman rite of the Church of Rome. This is similar to how the liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and St. Basil developed to combine together to constitute officially the Byzantine rite, or Greek Catholic form of the Mass. Both Latin and Greek rites of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass developed over time into their official forms. As did other non-Byzantine eastern rites. 

                         The Roman Rite of Mass 

This is not my opinion or a mere “traditionalist opinion.” This is what the Church has already made clear for centuries. Pope St. Pius V in Quo Primum made that clear.

I am therefore categorically not speaking of the Novus Ordo Missae of the 1970 missal dressed up in Latin, ad orientem worship, or Gregorian chant, now said at Holy Cross parish on some Sundays, which truth be told is a Protestantized artificial construct of the true Mass. The parish website doesn’t specify which Sundays will be a traditional-style Novus Ordo vs. the true Mass, leaving one in the dark on that question when attending on any given Sunday. If you do not want to attend the Novus Ordo, you risk driving out to Wagoner on any given Sunday and finding out it is not a TLM.

And by “true Mass,” I am referring pimarily to a) clearly Catholic liturgical rites of Mass which are without doctrinal deficiencies, theological errors, nor liturgical discontinuity, not to mention the typical worldly atmosphere, liturgical abuses, and irreverences. More specifically, I am referring to b) the true official traditional form of the Roman rite of Mass as ultimately determined already by Pope St. Pius V. It is the Mass that on a theoretical and practical level, is as a rule reverent, clearly orthodox, and a spiritually reliable rite of Mass, in contrast to what is now the satus quo in new rite parishes using the Novus Ordo missal. 

 

Quo Primum

Still Never Abrogated by a Pope 

Including any Pope since Vatican II

 Canonical Basis of Right to the Tridentine Mass

The Current Situation:

If/when the TLM is officially ended at Holy Cross, rest assured I will further investigate, gather data, connect the dots in context, and offer proportional analysis. I am prepared to do so because that would mean the final eradication of the traditional Mass from mainstream parishes. Canon # 212 etc gives Catholic bloggers that right, the laity participating in the mission of the Church per the mandate of Christ to all Christians according to their gifts and circumstances.

This is ultimately for the purpose of professing fidelity to the true Mass, calling upon our local Church (and all dioceses) to reject modernism and restore Tradition, and to help local Catholics navigate the current Crisis in the Church, especially as to attending Mass. I will organize again if necessary an online petition for Catholics locally and anywhere to call the chancery and email the bishop. To voice their concern, with all due respect. That potential scenario does not exclude a public peaceful rosary rally to show support of the Latin Mass to the bishop. If it should come to that. 

 

Michael Matt 

The Remnant Catholic Neespaper

Chartres Pilgrimsge 

The momentum points to the TLM also being gradually and covertly brought to an end over time at Holy Cross parochial parish. This is because Bishop Konderla per his recent letter says he is implementing Traditionis Custodes which itself dictates the final removal of all TLM’s from every parochial parish.

This isn’t merely “conjecture by that Okie Traditionalist blogger guy.” This is the official plan in writing by Pope Francis and in this diocese by Bishop Konderla. In virtually every diocese.

When + Konderla was ordained a bishop, within weeks he was publicly asked in a public meeting at the cathedral if Latin and the ad orientem posture would continue at the 10 am Mass which had been established and maintained for years by Bishop Slattery (RIP). His response was a simple no, telling people if they desired that, they should go to the FSSP parish in the countryside, which would have meant families uprooting themselves. He said this was for the sake of unity, suggesting those elements took away from unity in parochial 

If he does not want a traditional style Novus Ordo in the mainstream parish, it stands to reason he would even more so not want the “old Mass” there either. Eventually. And therefore be on board even more so with Pope Francis’ Traditionis Custodes.


Unchanged Momentum: 

Just consider how the laws of physics apply. Per Isaac Newton, every object at motion will continue in motion unless acted upon by an external cause. Likewise, momentum does not change unless acted upon by external forces. Likewise, following both of these laws, when a thing is in decay, and is not saved from decay by external forces, per these laws of motion and momentum, which are ingrained into every part of the cosmos (including every society, which includes the Church), then ultimately that “thing” will die. It is a hard indisputable fact. “It” is already dying, and will continue to keep dying until it is vaporized out of existence, by the modernists, unless of course acted upon by some outside 

And the “thing” I am talking about is collectively Catholic Tradition, including the whole of external ecclesiastical traditions, especially the true rite of Mass of the Church of Rome. And the “external sources” working to prevent this through conservation currently are mainly the SSPX and other formerly Ecclesia Dei Latin Mass groups (like the FSSP or Clear Creek monastery), and I would add the Eastern Catholic Churches. That would include to some degree the Maronite rite parish in Tulsa. Ultimately the cause of restoration of Tradition will be Christ by means of the pope.

Until then, in the Diocese of Tulsa, applying the basic laws of nature, per the current ongoing status quo in this diocese, we can logically predict that the Traditional Latin Mass will be permanently removed from Holy Cross in Wagoner. The undeniable momentum then continues since 2016 after the very tradition-minded Bishop Slattery (RIP) retired: 1. Removal of Fr. Ripperger’s traditional, pro-TLM Community, 2. Removal of Mother Miriam’s traditional, pro-TLM Community, 3. The practical ending of the Traditional Latin, Ad Orientem Novus Ordo Mass/Community at the cathedral, and then 4. The effective dissolution/obliteration/exile of the Latin Mass Community at Sts. Peter and Paul parish, the only parochial TLM that had been permitted in the city of Tulsa area. Now not even allowed a Latin Mass on a mere weekday, or as a Saturday Vigil, or bringing in any of a number of priests across the metropolitan area to help the Mass schedule to enable its preservation there. Officially speaking, the only remaining parochial parish (outside of the FSSP) allowed the TLM is now Holy Cross one hour east of Tulsa in the remote small town of Wagoner.

Out of sight, out of mind. From the majority of Catholics in this diocese. That is the objective fact, regardless of intentions. 

 

Catholic Action: 

Therefore, unless there will be external forces to change this obvious momentum, #5 would logically mean ending the TLM at Holy Cross, and THEREFORE eradicating it from the mainstream of the local Church. Once and for all. And continuing on the timeline continuum, that eventually means no more Traditional Latin Mass at either Clear Creek monastery or Most Precious Blood (FSSP).

You can’t argue with the law of momentum. 

It is just a matter of time, if we follow the history of the Church the last 60 years, the conciliar plan of reform by the modernists, and observe the ongoing momentum, not to mention the rules of logic and nature.

Unless something substantially changes.

That might mean the bishop turning more and more towards Tradition like it happened with Bishop Slattery, but I’m not holding my breath, especially considering the way he ended the 13 year old TLM community at Sts. Peter and Paul, per his notice letter primarily because of further implementation of the draconian Traditionis Custodes. Which he supports.

 

We now know the facts on that decision, despite pushback from people who are in denial the Church structure has been somewhat eclipsed by a false version of the Church and Faith.

Hopefully Pope Leo re-liberates the traditional Mass. And personally protects it for its own transcendent and timeless value, and not only for the sake of being pastoral to those attached to it. But those are BIG “IF’s.” Something to pray and advocate for, with guarded optimism, but not something to expect. As a centrist I expect he will hold out olive branches to traditionalists while also carrying on the plan in the Vatican to bring traditionalists over to the Novus Ordo. The facts point to him likely doing both. For one, he has remained silent on the TLM with little to no interventions yet.  

Therefore, per the momentum already in place for some time,it is just a matter of time before Catholic Tradition and the TLM is effectively completely eliminated from the diocesan structures, in Oklahoma, and everywhere. Relegated to quarantines, which ultimately in due time will be bridged over to the post-conciliar liturgical reform or extinguished. That is in fact the plan.

Until that time, I ask you to do your own part. And that might include forming a formal or informal committee or small group of sorts to represent the TLM Community at Holy Cross, which opens up and maintains communication directly with the Bishop like it hasn’t been done before. To pro-actively organize a formal petition and letter signed by the community to KEEP preserving permanently the Traditional Latin Mass, and at Holy Cross, presented to the bishop (and therefore the Vatican) in a friendly sit-down meeting or at a parish conference meeting with him. I attempted this myself.

I can already hear some voices saying “Yeah right. That ain’t going to happen.”

Express to him how much the ancient and venerable rite of Mass is so important to you and your family, to the Church, how it is your birthright, and the basis of your Roman rite spirituality holding together your faith. How you maintain union with him and obedience to his commands. How you will not “rebel” but instead privately and publicly advocate for your needs when necessary. 

But be prepared to organize peaceful prayer gatherings if/when it comes to it, as my wife and I attempted to do in the last minute, to demonstrate your faith and commitment to true Catholic worship if/when you get word that it is just a matter of time apparently before the 1962 missal (TLM) cannot be used anymore at Holy Cross. Only perhaps the Novus Ordo with some tolerable traditions, and not too out of sync with how the Novus Ordo is said 99.999% of the time with rare exception, “for the sake of unity.” Which would be a false unity. Not unity in Tradition, but unity in collective blind compliance to authority.


The Risk of Traditionalist Stockholm Syndrome: 

Otherwise, with a posture of servile petrified silence, you risk history repeating itself once again. This can and should be coordinated with the pastor, as much as he will engage coordination, while also guaranteeing your own canonical rights, even if there is indirect push back from the chancery. In the end, there is cause to hope in due time Pope Leo will come to the rescue. It’s a significant possibility.

It is a quiet noble crusade for truth and reverence, for the true Faith, to keep supporting the TLM at Holy Cross for those who attend. And for the true doctrine of the Mass. That is the point, not mere liturgical aesthetics nor mere historical sensibilities. 

 

The Indult Latin Mass as a Bridge:

But the situation was and continues to be designed as a bridge. To ultimately fully bridge the traditionalists back over to the Vatican II changes/environment and the liturgical reform (Novus Ordo Missae, 1970 missal) and the new “springtime” in the Church since the Council.

The parochial TLM is heroic in that it also serves as a bridge back to Tradition and ultimately to zero compromise with conciliar modernism. But it comes with a kind of white martyrdom, always living with the dynamic of fear and risk of traditionalist Stockholm syndrome that “if I/we say or do (fill in the blank; even when “fill in the blank” is in accord with faith and morals and allowed by the Church) then our Latin Mass may be taken away and our community brought to an end.” That irrationality is most responsible for the typical backlash to a truth-telling “SSPX type of traditionalism” which alienates certain devoted traditionalists and their theological reasoning from the mainstream of the group.

That  is from Orwellian group think. 

 

You would become enslaved not by the bishop per se acting with his authority as the bishop, but rather by a man in Orders effectively forcing modernism upon the laity outside of his divinely instituted authority, which would be an abuse of his power. You risk actively tolerating and even somewhat accepting the modernist errors in order to maintain permissions for the TLM. Which predisposes you to turn on anyone who refuses modernism, blind obedience, or a false narrative. You risk succumbing to Stockholm syndrome during this crisis in the Church.

But the few remaining current permissions for parochial TLM’s is also built on the ever shifting foundation of quicksand. It is a shaky and fragile bridge. Like walking across one of those old wooden foot bridges you see in the movies with decaying boards and rope, ready to collapse.

No circumstance obliges a Catholic to commit themselves and their family with normal trust long term to attend a Latin Mass on a bridge so fragile it could fall apart at any moment, or to stand on quicksand to attend the Mass of the Saints. It comes down to a prudential decision based on many local concrete circumstances weighed against absolute principles.


The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX):

It would be even more heroic to make the drive to the nearest SSPX, which for those in the Tulsa diocese would mean the SSPX chapel in Oklahoma City, or Springfield, MO. And then over time perhaps the SSPX can establish (or in the case of Tulsa re-establish with greater numbers) a local presence. Considering the long wait list of groups petitioning the SSPX to send a priest in the US, that would mean a “long game” for most, or even a “very long game,” and certainly for trads in the Tulsa diocese. Maintain contact with the SSPX and show them support. Every Fall the SSPX in St. Mary’s hosts a celebrated Shakespeare festival and a Christ the King Festival. Email the SSPX OKC chaplain for spiritual help.


Conclusion:

Ultimately, the Church is restored one day, or before that happens all trad groups can be consolidated safely under an Apostolic Administration only directly under the pope, with total freedom to establish and run traditional apostolates everywhere. Me being half a century old, after 25 years going to the TLM and navigating intimately all local TLM communities for many years, I think it is possible either might happen in my life time. I also don’t rule out either the rise of the anti-Christ during that period of time, that he is already alive. The Great Chastisement still awaits us. Covid was just a precursor. We must still “prep” for either WW3 or some other global meltdown (perhaps from AI).

Fall weather outdoor activities and other important topics await me, so as Forest Gump once said “that’s all I have to say about that”… 

Blue Button, Red Button. A Thought Experiment. Which Button Would You Choose??

Imagine a scenario.  Blue button, red button. You are sat down and told you have only two choices.  A: push the blue button.  If you push the blue button, the Latin Mass will permanently disappear from your local Church, but you will live a long and healthy life, surrounded by many friends and wealth. Or B: push  the red button, Latin Masses appear in every parish permanently, for the greater glory of God and salvation of souls, but you will die an unimaginably slow and painful death.  

Which button would you choose? 

I say this as a public confession of Faith, to encourage the reader to embrace the same confession of Faith. If in theory I were put in this hot seat and forced to choose, and had to choose, I would take time to examine my conscience, make an act of contrition, make a prayer of abandonment to God’s mercy, look for a moment at those buttons, and then, with zero reservation, push the red button. I would rather die a martyr through an excruciating death, for the true Catholic Mass and the true Catholic Faith, to help save souls, than to compromise my integrity, to be accepted, and to have a long, healthy life.   I will not burn one little tiny piece of incense to the false gods of modernism, liberalism, or false obedience.

See here my original post in 2016 about this blog: LINK.  This is still one goal for this blog. 

I’m going to keep the last many posts up at the top of the feed for a while.  In the meantime, when I write a new blog post, I’ll put it in a separate file posted at the top left of the page.  Reading “Current Blog Posts.” Click there to read forthcoming articles this summer.  

ACTION PLAN: Suggest Another Rosary Crusade to Restore the Latin Mass

Our Lady of Victories 

Invoked to Win the Battle of Lepanto 

Yes, a crusade!  A public gathering and presentation of rosaries to Pope Leo to free again the Mass of the Ages.  To “fight” the draconian measures of the Traditionis Custodes suppression, to help defend and restore our Catholic Tradition.  Note, the SSPX was mainly responsible for convincing Pope Benedict to liberate the traditional Mass in 2007, resulting in Summorum Pontificum.And how did they do that, in part?? 

Through s rosary crusade.  Every SSPX chapel gathered weekly tallies of rosaries said for this intention, gathered by the district superiors, then presented to the Pope. Talking to my wife tonight,  we discussed who will now lead the petition to Pope Leo to return to the restoration begun under Pope Benedict, to undue all the devastation done by Traditionis since 2021?  The SSPX!!!  

Let us propose another SSPX rosary crusade like the one in 2007, which this time would go viral since compared to 2007, almost everything now is communicated through social media.  The Remnant, Catholic Family News, LifeSiteNews, etc. can spread this Crusade, until this prayer and petition is ultimately laid before the feet of our Holy Father. 

An Apostolic Administration for Traditional Catholics

I support the idea of an “as is” blanket regularization of the SSPX and all of its affiliates, by Pope Leo.  Give them pernission to concentrate more bishops.  Establish them as an Apostolic Administration, a kind of non-territorial particular Church with its own hierarchy, liturgy, and pre-conciliar praxis, subject directly to the Pope.  An international safe space from conciliar modernism. A shining Citadel on a hill. A place of refuge. Able to to set up parishes and apostolates in any diocese independent of the Novus Ordo bishop’s jurisdiction.  Consolidate all Latin Mass groups subject to this new particular Church: the FSSP, Institute, Clear Creek monastery, etc.

What Summorum Pontificum Said

Pope Benedict’s Summorum Pontificum (still valid in its Magisterial teaching on the Liturgy) starts out referencing the General Instruction of the Roman Missal (2022 version).

It states “each particular Church must be in accord with the universal Church not only regarding the doctrine of the faith and sacramental signs, but also as to the usages universally received from apostolic and unbroken tradition. These are to be observed not only so that errors may be avoided, but also that the faith may be handed on in its integrity, since the Church’s rule of prayer (lex orandi) corresponds to her rule of faith (lex credendi).”

How the universal Church (including the Latin Church) worships must be in conformity with the apostolic and unbroken tradition, for the purpose of preserving the Faith, and preventing the spread of error. This is why I advocate so much for the TLM. Secondarily for the historical liturgical culture, Latin, or chant, but primarily for the clear preservation of the Catholic Faith. This issue goes above and beyond esthetical preference or a particular parish community.

This is about preserving that apostolic and unbroken tradition, to maintain and teach the Faith through the liturgy itself, especially the Church’s teachings on the nature of the Mass. 

That is that the Mass is primarily the propitiatory sacrifice (to save souls) of Our Lord Jesus Christ on the Cross, and secondarily a memorial of the Last Supper and a communion meal. The inversion is Protestant, while the proper order is Catholic.

Thank you Pope Benedict. 

Ja Ja, Bitte Okie. 

Why a Novus Ordo Priest Joined the SSPX

This man, this priest, this video, its message is simply amazing.  Not only for priests, men discerning the priesthood, but for everyone.  The message?  Make your own personal integrity, the salvation of your soul and that of others in your life, and adherence to Catholic Tradition in directing our faith, prayers, words, and deeds paramount.  And detach from being accepted as "normal" in the "Novus Ordo" world, and the material benefits that come with that.  This priest and his holy message is inspiring! Share with others. It does not only apply to the SSPX or traditional movement. 

An Atheist attends the Latin Mass

Really good video.  It is good comic relief.  It is funny, very insightful, and observant of the good and the bad of attending a Latin Mass parish.  Made me laugh several times.  Good for us trads to self-reflect,, and the cynical naysayers to consider. 

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Sts. Peter and Paul Latin Mass Community, Tulsa, OK is Effectively Banished, Snuffed out, Outcast, Dispersed, Scattered to the winds, Destroyed. Dead.

(See here my original post in 2016 about this blog: LINK.  This is still one goal for this blog)

I am sad to report that the one parochial Latin Mass in the City of Tulsa, and its community of 13 years will be, around Noon today, after its last Sunday Mass, dissolved.  That entity no longer exists.  Its remains have been put to rest. It is now only a memory.  It was brought forth into existence by Fr. Tim Davison and Bishop Slattery (RIP) in October, 2012.  Today, June 29, 2025, Bishop Konderla's decision has effectively vaporized it into oblivion.  May the 100 traditional Catholics +/-  of this community find eternal glory through this white martyrdom.  

I tried with every fiber of my being to help defend it from being extinguished by today, but the mysterious dark forces prevailed.  May St. Michael the Archangel bring down God's justice.  May Our Lady crush the head of Satan.  I did my best to make this go viral through LifeSiteNews, Catholic Family News etc.  I had the small hope of a miracle, that this would add to the reports of this terrible story what is going down this summer with the Traditionis Custodes final deadline, of July 1st.  

Pope Leo and the Holy See it seems did not intervene in Tulsa. Once the toothpaste is out of its bottle, it can't be put back in. So be it.  As Job said, "The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord."

Dies Irae

BREAKING NEWS: Bishop Konderla's OFFICIAL LETTER on Suppression of Latin Mass at Sts. Peter and Paul Parish, in Tulsa, OK. It IS Because of the Traditionis Custodes Restrictions.

The Letter 

LAST MINUTE Appeal to Pope Leo and Bishop Konderla on the Diocesan Latin Mass in Tulsa, OK, and Other Affected Dioceses

Save the Diocesan

Traditional Latin Mass

Let us Pray and do Penance 

Please SHARE Online 

Dear Holy Father Pope Leo, Bishop Konderla,

Please examine my last several blog posts reporting on the new Traditionis Custodes restriction of the ancient Mass in the Diocese of Tulsa. Please see all my appeals and the local response. 

What is happening here right now is happening right now all across the Latin Church to faithful Latin Mass Catholics who worship Our Lord in parochial parishes.  

We Catholics everywhere who love our Catholic Tradition have every reason to feel at this moment persecuted, devastated, fear, and distrust.  

This Sunday the one diocesan TLM in the City of Tulsa, at Sts. Peter and Paul, a very stable and active TLM community of 13 years, will be dissolved.  Truthfully, there has been a lack of transparency, clear explanations, due consideration to the people, refusals to meet with the bishop, and a discouragement to rightfully question, express grievances, petition or organize prayer events.  

Please come to our rescue, and in all dioceses right now where this suppression is happening.  Whether in Michigan, North Carolina, Missouri, or Oklahoma. Whether in the US, Peru, Nigeria, or Poland.  Everywhere. 

Please contact our bishop to prevent this permanent Shut Down, and all the respective bishops!!!  Before it is too late!!!!

We give you our holy submission of obedience, and also our grievance and last minute plea.  Please invoke your supreme authority and come to the defense of the Mass of the Saints, the Mass of the Ages, the Mass of St. Pius V, that is the ancient and venerable rite of our Church of Rome, for the greater glory of God. 

Sincerely,

Joseph Ostermeir (pen name)

And all Catholics who support this, locally and everywhere. 

JosephOstermeir@gmail.com 

Brian McCall CFN Podcast on the Suppression of the Diocesan Latin Mass in Tulsa, OK

 

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    LINK

Talks about in first few minutes,

And then at length, at end, for subscribers 

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Catholic Podcaster Michael Lofton on the Suppression of the Diocesan Latin Mass in Tulsa, OK

 

My Thoughts on the Public Appeal to Bishop Konderla on the Traditional Latin Mass

Update: a local Catholic sent me an email accusing me of “bashing priests,” “bashing SSPP,” taking a Protestant approach, giving no specific reference or quote to anything I said or did.  I responded sharing with them this timely article quoting Bishop Schneider on the necessity of resisting Traditionis Custodes.  LINK

Tulsa Diocese Cleric X Gives His Perspective on the Planned Suppression of the Diocesan Parish TLM Community (as of this Sunday) .

Bishop Slattery (RIP)

Offering the Traditional Mass

I have permission from a Cleric of the Diocese of Tulsa to publish here the substance of my conversation with him this week about the plan to end the TLM at Sts. Peter and Paul parish. He contacted me to give his perspective, which is the perspective of a member of our local hierarchy. 

Okie Trad Publicly Defamed by Second Tulsa Priest, Fr. Alessandro Calderoni, over Diocesan Latin Mass Shut Down in Tulsa , OK. My Thoughts.

Update: 6:28, as soon as this priest publicly apologizes for his public defamatory remarks on Facebook, as a representative of the diocese, and especially as a priest, a FATHER, then I will remove this post.  I could keep it up until the canonical and civil process is complete to ensure justice for victims of clergy abuse.  But to show my good will, and for the purpose of him repairing his damage now rather than just later, if he does what I am asking, then I will remove this post.  

 Fr. Alessandro Calderoni 

Tulsa Diocese

Ordained 2021

(See here my original post in 2016 about this blog: LINK.  This is still one goal for this blog)

Introduction: 

You can’t make this up.  Here is the timeline leading up to this.

 LifeSiteNews picks up my article (see it below, post before last, and a link to their article) last week about the Shutdown of a 13 year old Tulsa TLM community in a diocesan parish, and also recent restrictions of the Mass of the Ages at Holy Cross in Wagoner, an hour east of Tulsa.  This is in the wake of the final implementation of the Traditionis Custodes "final solution," requiring the eventual total elimination of the traditional Mass from every parochial parish in every single diocese.  That logically would apply to every single parochial parish in the Tulsa Diocese.  You just have to read the document, its attached letter, and subsequent Vatican documents on it. 

Michael Lofton made a video about it (link in post below).  Blogger comments don’t work here (not sure why), and comments by new contributors are on pause at the LSN article. 

Next, in order to make an official statement representing the diocese, the Vicar of Priests, Fr. Bryan Brooks,  leaves a patronizing comment at Lofton’s video, about me and my blog as a source, followed by a false defamatory accusation about the LSN article and what I wrote.  See my last blog post.  The priest is not responding to my points or questions, or subsequent requests for retraction or editing.  The chancery responded it is backing up what he said as “reasonable.” The priest and diocese will not retract or amend his comments.  

And if this dynamic hasn’t yet unraveled into absurdity, for good measure tonight Fr. Alessandro Calder unjustifiably and publicly chastised me (not per se as the blogger, but by my non-pen name) to an entire online group of fellow local traditional Catholics.  Fortunately I captured everything that was said through screenshots. I’ve emailed him to unblock me and please explain his judgment, so we can feel comfortable going forward attending their Masses with the group.  

Diocese of Tulsa Refuses Any Change to Defamatory Social Media Comments By the Vicar of Priests, Fr. Bryan Brooks, Related to My Article about the Diocesan Latin Mass Shut Down in Tulsa, OK, Specifically as Reported Last Week by LifeSiteNews

           

    Fr. Bryan Brooks 

   Vicar of Priests 

   Diocese of Tulsa 

See here my original post in 2016 about this blog: LINK.  This is still one goal for this blog

Update 6/23: I emailed the diocese. They replied refusing for Fr. Brooks’ social media comments to be edited or deleted to remove defamatory comments, saying his comments were reasonable. The obvious implication is that he/they are doubling down on their false position that my representation of the decision as a “suppression” that “effectively banishes a community,” is “very misleading.”  

They are falsely treating my article as characterizing the decision as “a nefarious plan” to get the Latin Mass out of the whole diocese, when nothing even remotely was said claiming that, to the contrary I clearly labored to explicitly say I was not making a personal moral judgment.  

The Latin Mass Community at Sts. Peter and Paul Parish in Tulsa About to Come to an End

Re-post 

See here my original post in 2016 about this blog: LINK.  This is still one goal for this blog.

Update 6/21, the Tulsa Diocese Vicar of Priests responded to this story. Read what he said and my response here: LINK

Update 6/20,  Life Site News reported on it HERE.  Only clarification on their report referencing me, I said below there seems to have been no CLEAR explanation so far.  I would insert the word CLEAR in their report.   LSN, thanks be to God, is making this story viral through their Facebook and X accounts.  Also, Michael Lofton talked about this HERE  The Tulsa Diocese Communications Director responded to LSN on Wednesday:  

Trump Should NOT Bomb Iran

Why? Because the Muslim radicals will never stop trying to destroy the US as long as we attempt to dominate their part of the world. Long term this only means Iran eventually gets a nuclear bomb and uses it on us.  I stand with Rand Paul (and Ron Paul) for Non-Interventionism.  We need to get out of the Middle East, and using Israel as a puppet state.  The whole enterprise these last decades was immoral.  The Jews are no longer the Chosen People of God.  And we’re mainly over there for the oil and to keep our way of life here greedy and materialistic.  Time to withdraw and buckle our belts long term.  We have all the oil we need in North America, long term.  But Trump, despite his strengths, is weak on Israel.  He may be leading the USA straight into World War III.  Pray for world peace.  Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.  

Pope Leo Addresses Chicago White Sox Game

Demonstrated commitment to clear orthodoxy contra the last 12 years, yet another sign of hope, proving the angry naysayers yet again wrong. The stadium did not hear a Gospel of Man, but of Christ.  Began referencing the Holy Trinity, then calling them to Christ, and fallen away Catholics back to the Church.  Talked about love of God and each other.  Prayers he urgently addresses the Latin Mass final solution campaign ASAP. before the holocaust is complete this summer, and the genie can’t be put back in the bottle. He must understand the urgency by now, having talked recently to Cardinal Burke about the situation.  Offering my crosses to save the Mass.  Save the Mass, save the Faith. Save the Faith, save souls!

Public State of Denial about the Cultural Revolution

The chaos of the leftist LA riots right now made me think of this subject.  Russia had a cultural revolution beginning in the early 1900’s. China had a cultural revolution beginning in the 1950’s.  And the USA had a cultural revolution beginning in 1960.  Everyone and their dog knows this.  But few have a clear historical understanding of that reality,  We act as if we are in denial there actually was a cultural revolution, while simultaneously, continuously, referring to this fact indirectly through an ever deepening of the same revolution, by means of pop culture.