ACTION ALERT. Please Call respectfully His Excellency Bishop Konderla, the Bishop of the Diocese of Tulsa and Eastern Oklahoma, whether you are local or outside the Tulsa Diocese, or outside Oklahoma. Or even the US. This is happening in many dioceses. Help stand up for the Right of every Roman rite Catholic in this diocese (and every diocese) including those not attending or unable to attend the FSSP Latin Mass, for whatever reason, to the ancient and venerable Roman rite.
The Latin Mass at Sts. Peter and Paul parish in Tulsa will now be DISCONTINUED. The Latin Mass at Holy Cross parish in Wagoner is now restricted from having Mass every Sunday, to ONCE a month.
Here is the number to the Chancery, ask to speak to the bishop or his secretary, keeping it brief and respectful (example: "I think it is a grave injustice to end the Latin Mass at Sts. Peter and Paul, and restrict it at Holy Cross. Please consider restoring it" :
Diocese of Tulsa Chancery:
918-294-1904
Per the Traditionis Custodes clampdown, it can’t be in the parish church. At first a few bishops gave a dispensation, but now the Vatican is telling them to put a stop to it. But it can be in a location right next to the parish church. God gave us intelligence and creativity to find solutions in situations like this. And the bishop does have the authority to dispense with Vatican liturgical norms for “pastoral purposes.” Pope John Paul II granted them that when promulgating the 1983 Code of Canon Law.
Vatican protocol contrary to the canonical and divine right of a Bishop can be challenged. Konderla was one of the generous few to do this with dispensations, including officially establishing the TLM at Sts. Peter and Paul and Holy Cross parishes, as exceptions.
Despite having before removed two traditional communities. Of still sad memory. Fr. Ripperrger’s Doloran Fathers exorcist priests, and then Mother Miriam’s Daughters of Mary doing street ministry in full habit, both attached to the TLM, established over five years by the previous bishop before retirement. BOTH within MONTHS of becoming the new bishop. God knows who ultimately is responsible.
Vatican modernists drawing up a “Final Solution” to eradicate the ancient Mass under the previous pontificate (2013-2025)?
The pope is dead (RIP). Petition Rome to have the next pope lift restrictions. I don’t support a Tridentine style Novus Ordo per se, in itself, as it is still the Protestantized, doctrinally deficient Novus Ordo, but I do materially in its externals as it’s the next best thing, if nothing else it could be said as Tridentine as possible, including using the more traditional Roman Canon Eucharistic Prayer # 1 (or ask for an indult to insert the 1962 Canon), that would be a way to side step suppression of traditional liturgy until storms subside.
Do not disobey. Rather obey first God, the perennial line of popes, the Doctrine of the Faith, the divine obligation to sacred worship, and resist modernist clampdowns within the limits allowed of priests and laity. Those limits don’t just forbid and restrict like a wall, they act as a guide about what can be done legitimately inside of the wall.
The Bishop has restricted the TLM now at Holy Cross parish to ONCE a month. The TLM on the other THREE Sundays has been removed. Until recently it was every Sunday. Established principally for the families living near Clear Creek monastery. What I’m about to report next suggests that the one remaining monthly TLM will likely soon be fully removed at Holy Cross, likely putting the Clear Creek community back to its original parish-less existence, something I once posted about. Advocating for a parish for them. Time will tell, but I expect to see it removed from their Mass schedule on their website.
This is the third attempt at a parish based TLM for their families (two previous attempts were made under Bishop Slattery [RIP]). The Tradition-oriented Fr. Donovan will be transferred from Sts. Peter and Paul in Tulsa to Holy Cross in Wagoner, a new change. Perhaps he will attempt a Tridentine style Novus Ordo. But the people want the TLM. Perhaps he will find a “creative” solution. Or under the next pope months from now the Draconian attempt to suppress the TLM will be ended. Trusting in Divine Providence. Even if that means being out in the desert.
LATIN MASS to BE BANISHED from Sts. Peter and Paul Parish
And the alert of this post is about Sts. Peter snd Paul. After well over a decade (13 years) as a Latin Mass community as part of Sts. Peter snd Paul parish, the TLM established there on a permanent basis by the esteemed Fr. Tim Davison (LINK) is, by order of the Bishop, next month (June) to be EFFECTIVELY BANISHED. ENDED. THROWN OUT of the parish church. Quietly SNUFFED out by the modernists, whoever was truly behind this. God knows.
The new Mass in Spanish remains. The new Mass in English remains. But those attending the traditional Mass in Latin for over a decade are now left out in the cold. The Mass of the Saints will no longer be maintained. Even though the remaining priest has already offered the TLM for some time
I myself was unable to attend Easter Mass recently due to illness But my wife attended the TLM on Easter Sunday at Sts. Peter and Paul witnessing at least ONE HUNDRED people attending. A verifiable community for many years.
I would ask the Bishop, what about all those people? What about all those families who wanted to worship in the traditional rite but be a part of a mainstream parish? To share Catholic tradition in that setting? Not quarantined off to a private enclave removed from the city? What of all the Hispanics who joined the TLM community from the parish, loving the ancient liturgy? What of all the members of the choir, all the acolytes, and other volunteers who have helped maintain the traditional Mass, contributing to the parish all these years?
The Latin Mass community there has been vibrant with activities, integrated into parish life, and bringing in $$$ for the poor parish, which is mostly Hispanic. If/when the group leaves, all their donations leave, putting more financial burden on the Hispanics who tend to be in comparison poor. What a shame.
Note: I’ve anticipated this day coming for years, ready to write this blog post, to encourage legitimate protest to the bishop and chancery.
And I can testify personally to having spent a substantial amount of time attending the TLM at both Sts . Peter and Paul and Holy Cross, that in fact neither community are “rad trads” bashing Vatican II, the Novus Ordo, or the pope. If anything they take a live-and-let-live approach to be allowed to continue. And we now know that survey of bishops about trads attending parochial TLMs was engineered, to justify banishing the TLM from diocesan parishes. The report then claimed there were too many “radical” problems within TLM-offering diocesan parishes, which contradicts the reality.
And even if there might be some “rad trad” encounters here and there in the mainstream parish, that warrants being disciplined proportionately to the problems. If a child steels a candy bar, you don’t punish him by putting him long term on an indefinite strict fast. If there are any “problems” here locally they are not serious enough to actually take away or restrict further the actual traditional Mass itself, otherwise some kind of transparent public explanations are necessary. And then the local Church can legitimately find out the reasons why.
That is using the Mass like a bait and switch. Bait people into gradually over time returning to the liturgical reform, but use the Latin Mass as a switch to keep them in line. Long term strategy. If there are any annoying infractions, that require, you know, episcopal oversight, then you risk having the Latin Mass taken away from you. It creates a fear situation. That would be cruel and sadistic.
And besides no pope or bishop can restrict the TLM. Per Pope St. Pius V, in Quo Primum, influenced by the Council of Trent ending a few years before he issued it, it IS the true Roman rite, perpetually, not a mere Tridentine version of it. The original primitive catacombs rite developed into its final, complete form by the 7th century at the time of Pope Gregory the Great. This Roman rite, originally established by St. Peter in Rome, clearly showed the doctrinal nature of the Mass as a propitiatory sacrifice and the truth of transsubstantiation.
It just took longer to be established as the official Roman rite compared to the eastern rites since the Roman Christians were underground in the first several centuries. Based on ecclesiastical tradition, Quo Primum, and the unchanging liturgical teachings of Pope Benedict in Summorum Pontificum, EVERY Roman rite Catholic has a birthright to the ancient Mass. It is timeless and permanent. This is why so many priests in the 1970’s and 1980’s resisted the new Mass saying only the traditional Mass.
One was Fr. Walters from Oklahoma City who for many years, from the 1970's to the 1980's, after saying Mass in OKC, tirelessly drove to Tulsa to say the TLM. This was long before there was a Community of St. Peter (which met at St. Anne’s, then Holy Family), then the Quasi-parish of St. Peter-FSSP (met at St. Augustine’s), then Most Precious Blood parish (a fully traditional, FSSP parish), then the flood of young families to this parish especially in the last five years, or for that matter all the other works of traditional restoration by the late Bishop Slattery, especially founding Clear Creek Abbey.
The verifiable truth is this is a causal timeline. What came before in a general sense helped CAUSE what came later. Fr. Walters —> SSPX chapel—> Community of St. Peter —> FSSP quasi-parish---> Clear Creek monastery—> Most Precious Blood FSSP parish --> Bishop Slattery’s other traditional works —> etc. Just ask Fr. Walters or the original families going back to the 1970’s and 1980’s.
Conclusion: please respectfully contact the Bishop to express your concerns, based on Canon 212 which guarantees us this right.
It also speaks of the obligation.
Onward and upward.